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Diode Triode
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Flame Conductivity question?


If you insert an electrode into a gas flame, it behaves as though it were a diode, with the burner chassis as cathode and the inserted electrode as the anode. (This phenomenon is used in modern, pilotless heating appliances to stop the ignition sparks when the gas catches light.) You can pass a current down theflame, but not up it.

I'm guessing that the rectification effect occurs because electrons are smaller and lighter than most positive ions, and so are easier to divert off course.

If you were to insert a grid into the flame, thus making the diode into a triode, would it actually behave as an amplifier? Has anyone ever tried this?

Electrons would move easily through the flame whereas the positive ions would be carried up the flame with the airflow. A flame is just a plasma at standard atmospheric conditions, as opposed to a low pressure plasma like in a neon tube. Since the electrons can move so easily, why would they move in only one direction?

Back around the 1970's someone made an omnidirectional speaker out of an acetylene torch flame and 2 platinum electrodes driven by a stereo. The flame diameter would change with the audio signal and create sound waves like a speaker does, only equally in all directions.

As far as I can recall, nothing was said about using a DC audio signal. I wonder what that would sound like. I read this in Popular Science or Popular Electronics. Maybe a search can find the article.

I've experimented with flame conductivity myself using a transformer with several thousand volts AC output. I remember if one wire was in the flame and the other HV wire was brought close to it, the flame would bend towards the wire. There was no difference in behavior when the wires were reversed, as I recall. I would think there would be a difference if my AC was being turned to DC. One wire might then repel the flame, but maybe not if the overall charge on the flame was altered sufficiently by the wire in contact with it. Just my observations.

As for the triode question, I would guess it would work. I'd guess a regular open flame could handle higher currents than a low pressure plasma. If it was safe to have open flames in our TVs and radios maybe it could be used assuming you could feed the flame through a wire.



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Microwave Valves/Tubes

what were the most common types of vacuum tubes used?


in their hay day what were the most commonly used vacuum tubes..ie diodes, triodes, pentodes..

It would most probably be diodes, as there are most circuits use some kind of rectification, while not all circuits use amplification that is what tr/pentodes are mainly used for.

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